Showing posts with label prednisone. Show all posts
Showing posts with label prednisone. Show all posts

Saturday, February 11, 2012

...5 Months Later! Test Results, Fur Shedding, a Fashion Show, and the Black Skin mystery solved

So... it's been 5 months since Max had Cyber Knife!  5 Months since he couldn't even lift his head or eat!  5 AMAZING MONTHS!  Over the last months we've had Max's blood levels checked and he's doing great!

His Chem Test (Idexx Lab):

TEST                  RESULTS              NORMAL REFERENCE GUIDE
BUN                      28 mg/dl                           7-27 mg/dl
CREA                    1.3mg/dl                           0.5-1.8 mg/dl
BUN/CREA                22
ALT                        158 U/L                          10-100 U/L
AST                         50 U/L                            0-50 U/L
ALKP                     408 U/L                           23-212 U/L


In the grand scheme of things here - this is Good!  We've had dogs (and cats) MUCH higher and even off the charts!  Considering Max has been on prednisone for 9 months at some level or another

T4 Test:

Results 2.2     Normal is 1.1- 4


Max's fur shedding seems to be slowing down a bit.  Maybe it was just the extra dry heat in the house from the colder winter weather.  We've increased his exercise a bit too to see if that helps - more walks.

I spoke with the PolyMVA folks - while his energy level was boosted significantly and I saw a lot of possitive changes  I wanted to make sure that his herbs weren't reacting poorly to the PolyMVA - nothing Max was on should have been reacting to it, but they did say that some dogs actually can develop a rash from it. One of the functions of the PolyMVA is that it helps flush toxins from the body (from meds, chemo, radiation, cancer cells, etc.. the body naturally flushes toxins from the body through respiration, the skin (the biggest one at the cellular level which is how PolyMVA functions) and when you go potty.  I had actually put Max on their highest recommended dose.. so perhaps that was too much. While he didn't get a rash - the shedding could be related to that.

Years ago Daisy and Max were selected randomly while walking along the street to be models in a Christian Dior fashion show (I DO NOT DRESS MY DOGS UP.. they're lucky if they are wearing a fancy collar! - usually they run around the house "naked" and their leashes have their collars attached) Anyway - it sounded like a fun event, so we went and they did a great job on the Cat walk, but Max completely broke out from the clothes they put on him. His skin got all red and his fur started to shed (he has a thick coat too so you'd think that would have protected him). It is possible that this was just his way of reacting to it.  He is the first dog out of all of our dogs who have been on it who has had this reaction. (Buttercup's coat has gotten beautiful and very silky and healthy.) 

So the plan is to keep him off it for one more week to let it completely clear his system and then start him back on a lower dose and see what happens.  (There is NO iodine in PolyMVA we found out)

There is also the possibility that it's just from being on the Prednisone for so long. That has been known to make fur coarse and cause shedding, which are also signs of Cushing's Disease, which can be caused by low thyroid #'s although I'm told that if he were to completely go off the prednisone (weaned off - you should never stop any medication, especially prednisone suddenly - and always consult your doctor/vet first) his fur would grow back and be healthy.  Now given the option of being bald, vs. being involved in a perpetual game of dizzy bat, I'd go for being bald.  As Max's neurologist pointed out they do make some very fashionable dog sweaters these days..   Anyway - this is always a possibility. We have not done the Cushings test at this point.

We're still going to try the fish oil and see if that works (ran it by Max's holistic vets and his neurologist and got the thumbs up from all).

Another thing I had learned this morning was that a number of the dogs in a cancer support group we're involved with have also lost their fur while on steroids, but it did manage to grow back. Many said that the fur loss actually got worse after they started tapering the steroids back (prednisone, natural hydrocortisone, etc) Which is what we've been doing with Max - he's at 10mg every 4-5 days now). 

One person in the group posted:

"My dog (not my cancer dog) had fur shedding when she was on prednisone. Actually, it got much worse after I tapered her off and stopped it, so i think it can happen with a low dose. She had a low thyroid but within normal range. Her normally soft luxurious fur also became very coarse. The vet gave her a chinese herb called Rehmannia 6 and within days her fur was soft again and stopped falling out. I don't know if you can give it at the same time as steroids, maybe you want to ask your holistic vets about it."

DON'T GIVE YOUR PETS ANYTHING WITHOUT CHECKING WITH YOUR VET FIRST

So.. I think we're going to talk with our holistic vets about Rehmannia 6 and find out what it is, what it's side effects are, how it reacts with the other herbs, supplements and medications Max is on,  and if that might be a possibility to help as well 

A  few people also said that their dogs skin had turned black - just like Max's did!  One person was even able to say what specific medication turned her dog's skin black! 
She told us her "oncologist explained that one of the "side effects" of doxorubicin could be the "darkening of skin- the color changes ".  

While I didn't put Max on this medication, he was on it when he was in the hospital in NY for Cyber Knife!  And it was within a couple of weeks that I started to see his skin turn black.. not pretty but as far as I can tell no bad effects.  His fur has all grown back where he was shaved and the skin had turned black and I don't think it's black under there any more.


BUTTERCUP UPDATE:
Just a quick update on Buttercup. Her surgery went really well. Her food has recovered very well - nice scar! Looks good and the pathology report came back that we're all clear - it's all out, clean margins, nothing to worry about any more!  She's been running around and going for walks and I only saw her try to lick her stitches once.

And a few photos of Max working hard and monitoring the landscaping going on...




Saturday, October 15, 2011

Chinese Herbs, Alternatives & Diet

Max at Vet getting acupuncture 10-13-11
I didn't get into much detail earlier on about the chinese herbs that Max has been on and is continuing to be on, but for those interested in alternatives, including Traditional Chinese Medicine, Acupuncture, Homeopathy, etc. I thought I'd include a little more detail for you.

After Max was first diagnosed, we went to our holistic vets (Veterinary Holistic Care in Bethesda MD where we see Dr. Kitty Raichura, and Dr. Tracy Lord, who practices in Richmond and Williamsburg VA. ) Here's what we did (It's important to note that I didn't give him all of this stuff every day - only when I felt like he needed it. He did get items 2-7 daily)

  1. Weekly Acupuncture to help strengthen his energy and immune system 
  2. MilkThistle 2-3 capules daily to help support his liver and kidneys while on Prednisone
  3. Astragalus (we used both capsules and Chinese Flower brand formula depending on what he'd eat) to help strengthen his immune system
  4. Stasis of the Mansion of the Mind (Chinese Herb prescribed to help move energy / chi  in his mind and help clear any dieing tumor cells
  5. Wei Chi Booster - to help increase his energy
  6. CAS suppliements for Dogs - to help boost his immune system
  7. Tumeric sprinkled on his food to help his immune system and reduce swelling (Tumeric is a natural killer (NK) agent)
  8. IP6
  9. Poly MVA
  10. Homeopathic mixture that was custom made for him by Dr. Lord to help with his specific symptoms
 I stopped everything except for the Milk Thistle and Astragalus when he went in to the hospital.  We started him back up on Stasis of the Mansion of the Mind and Wei Chi Booster 2 weeks after his last CK therapy.

We also started to use a Natural Hydrocortisone pill that we weaned him on to to replace the prednisone he was on.  The Natural Hydrocortisone is soy-based and I do not feel it is nearly as strong as the prednisone. For every 10mg of prednisone he was on, he took 20mg of the natural hydrocortisone.  Sometimes I felt like he needed more.  We did get him down to 5mg of prednosone every 4 days and 20mg of natural hydrocortisone ever other day before he went down hill after chasing that squirrel. I've heard different doctors thinking different things about it so if this is something you are considering weigh all the options and facts with your vet. The positive is that the soy-based natural hydrocortisone won't mess with liver and kidney functions as much as the prednisone does, in my opinion through, and I have no medical background, I think the prednisone is more effective, but that doesn't mean you can't use them together or that the natural hydrocortisone may not work better for another patient who isn't as advanced as Max was.  I think it's very important to remember that every patient is unique and I am just letting you know what we did and what worked for us as well as what options you may have and may want to discuss with your vet.

We have had a lot of success treating our pets with homeopathic methods, Chinese Medicine, Acupuncture and alternative therapies including ozone therapy for other kinds of cancers.

Max has been on an anti-cancer diet most of his life which is probably why he doesn't have any sign of cancer anywhere in his body. Meningiomas are benign masses.

His typical meals include:

  1. Grilled Chicken usually - sometimes steak (1x every other week)
  2. Fresh Veggies or a 1/2 cup of Honest Kitchen Brand Freeze Dried Veggies (Preference)
  3. Scoop of organic canned pumpkin
He has been completely grain free since he came to live with us when he was 11.

He loves to eat frozen broccoli as treats, or cantaloupe, blueberries, apples, carrots, cucumbers, or other veggies. The dogs also get frozen raw bones with the marrow inside. I usually keep them frozen because they last longer, are less messy, and keep them cool in the summer. I'll also refill the raw bones with organic salt free, sugar free peanut butter and freeze them too.  The dogs also love roasted turkey, and salmon which they occassionally get.  We have very rarely ever bought and fed our dogs commercial dog food and when we have it's been either The Honest Kitchen or B.G. (Before Grain) products.